@Pete Zahut, that was epic. I like that style!
@jwfacts "Eisegesis" indeed. I also referred to the Dana and Mantey Manual Grammar book as an "addition" instead of "edition" .
...Someone pass me a Dare. My place is all over the head.
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
@Pete Zahut, that was epic. I like that style!
@jwfacts "Eisegesis" indeed. I also referred to the Dana and Mantey Manual Grammar book as an "addition" instead of "edition" .
...Someone pass me a Dare. My place is all over the head.
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
@zeb She'd be in her late forties at least.
@Virgochik, you're right. I'm just in the hospital now while my little boy sleeps off his anesthesia. Was a rough few hours. I'm so tired.
I almost feel like writing back and flipping the script to let this sister know how concerned I am for her! And that her email reeked of unscriptural blasphemy (talking down to the acquisition of wisdom - erm, isn't that what Jehovah blessed Solomon for asking? And her contradiction to the nobility spoken of in Acts about the Bereans who made sure that "these things were so" ). I should tell her I'll be praying intensely for her and may Jehovah have mercy on her soul for her sheer recklessness in blind obedience, lol.
I don't know. Just venting while running on an hour of sleep last night. Thank you everyone so far for helping me thrash this out without actually sending anything incriminating to this sister.
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
@Incognito If the email were sent to me from someone of a different faith and it still smacked of the same arrogance and call to action from Sister Blind Faith's one... I would definitely stand my ground and firmly explain why their email is immoral, illogical and insulting.
The difference is, I wouldn't need to delicately dumb down my response if it were going to a non-cult member.
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
@pale.emperor I really like that paragraph response you included. That was excellent, thank you.
I hear you all loud and clear - move along with life. But I definitely am keen to read your own versions of replies. @The Fall Guy, I'll keep an eye out on my inbox, cheers.
Okay, I've got a big couple of days ahead of me for my little boy in hospital. Going to try and get some rest now.
Looking forward to reading more from you in the morning :).
hey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
I spoke about the Bible (I still feign a belief in God and chalk up my absence at the meetings to my deep study of the scriptures unassisted by WT exegesis). I happily showed her my Manual Grammar of the New Testament by Julius Mantey (the same addition Fred Franz had appealed to when constructing the Kingdom Interlinear!) and spoke of my passion for getting as close as possible to understanding the original text of the epistles.
We touched on the blood doctrine. I gently expressed some of my concerns I now have as a mother. She told me very seriously why blood transfusions are heinous - even if the organization were to permit them. This sister is very much into homeopathy, natural pathology and some other New Age bullsh*t. I listened respectfully and told her I'd love to read up more on where she was getting her information. She promised to send me some of the research she'd done in favor of her WT confirmation bias.
She did email me some Youtube links to Governmental videos speaking about the dangers of transfusions (yes - there are some videos like that which exist). I thanked her and promised to read/watch all that she sent me. And I did!
So that was that.
And then this morning, I received this email in my inbox after a few weeks of silence...
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Hey [WHAM!]
[Sister Blind Faith]
Sin Making Reinstatement Impossible — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1952162#h=9
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Now, I'm just wondering... do I even bother with this, you guys? She is clearly wearing some heavy cult blinders, making waking up impossible. I just don't know how to go about this. On the one hand, a part of me just wants to respond with: "Oh, WOW. Thank you so much for sending that amazing article! It all makes so much sense now. Whew, glad to be back in step with everyone."
From what's left of her brain, she'll detect the insincere tone because that's not how I usually write to her. But how could she really argue with that?
The other part of me wants to sit down and address this arrogance head-on. I'm calling on you for any input and suggestions of where to go from here.
@Vanderhoven - you're still a Christian, from memory. If you're around, do you mind putting together some Biblical zingers that will shut this down? That would be amazing.
Any believers and atheists alike who can still appeal to scriptural reason to help me nip this in the bud, please chime in. Usually, I'd be okay with compiling something myself. It's just, my son is going into an operation in the next several hours and I'm a bit stressed :(
I appreciate any advice - even if you tell me to just drag and delete her email and carry on in the real world.
Thanks in advance,
WHAM!
many people like to boast about “jehovah being loving and impartial toward all”.
there are even scriptures that say words to that effect.. however, if we look at just his actual conduct and actions , and not accept the words supposedly written by his apologetic “bible writers”, the facts tell us something else!.
firstly, he chose one special nation and race of people.
@stuckinarut2 Ja, JJ has slung around some anti-semitic language in his time. Back in the early 80s, he accidentally went on the record saying that Jews are "Hymies" and that New York was "Hymietown" in the Washington Post when thought he was having a private chitchat with the reporter! (Pretty ironic for a black guy to act territorial over a place like NEW YORK! That state has the highest population of black residents out of all the US!)
And during Nixon's presidency, JJ remarked that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust"... That was a bit scandalous for a civil rights activist.
google: vintage freemason compilation collinsworth family.. several pages into the program has a familiar face..
@Kevin McFree I know, right? Anyone could see they totally PhotoShopped his stubble in.
i was informed by my jw father tonight that the reason i don't go to meetings is because "of a guilty conscious".
i just done an eye roll and walked away.
i just can't make this stuff up..
If that were said to me, I would have said, "I suppose that's an easier reason for your mind to digest than the actual truth of why I no longer attend."
many people like to boast about “jehovah being loving and impartial toward all”.
there are even scriptures that say words to that effect.. however, if we look at just his actual conduct and actions , and not accept the words supposedly written by his apologetic “bible writers”, the facts tell us something else!.
firstly, he chose one special nation and race of people.
just had to share... a former friend of my wife's, has just left our house, unbeknown to us, her and her husband have been inactive for about a year and a half, they have pre teen boys too.
she reached out to my wife as she had heard that we were apostates etc and needed someone to talk to.. .
after her father dying she was in a bad place mentally and emotionally and reached out to her cong for support, apon receiving 0 she turned to the bible for comfort only in her raw emotional state to realize that jehovah was a murderous unfair god and then her wheels of rational reasoning started turning.. she questioned things and was outspoken about things and attracted elder attention... long story short she wanted to connect with a friendly ear and she splurged she's never going back, the bible is all bulls**t and it's a cult, despite not knowing most of ttatt we all shared experiences and watched her eyes boggle at (stuckinarut... the first euphoric high) the un scandal, beth sarim, ray franz, 607, arc.
Thank you for that fine experience, brother Fulla. May the universe's continued blessing be upon you and your wife as you both continue in your dedicated service to rationality.